You don't have to disrespect and insult others simply to hold your own ground.  If you do, that shows how shaky your own position is.   Red Haircrow I have a real issue with people who assert their opinions about all manner of topics with disrespect, derision, patronizing, and foul language.  To use words that are laced with those characteristics is to send the message that you aren't totally secure in what you are saying you believe.  Haircrow has  absolutely  nailed it with today's quote.  In fact, even though I went "on and on" about how wonderful and vital words are yesterday, the best way to hold our ground on our opinions is to - wait for it - say not much at all.  *GASP*  Why not just live out what you believe about XYZ?  And when you do feel a need to talk about it why resort to using disrespectful tones and language?  I just don't see the need.  We are adults, let's act like ones!  And to get back to the point ...